Wednesday, January 02, 2008

The Huckabee problem

On first blush, hearing his responses in the early debates, I liked Huckabee.  Not as much as Ron Paul, but he was one of the few candidates I could have imagined myself voting for. 

Count that as early delusion because I am officially off his bandwagon.  As I have detailed previously, he has issues with state rights.  This latest interview just blows up how un-conservative his is compared to Ron Paul.  Mark Shea dismantles Huckabee's major gaffe in stating "all law establishes morality." 

Here's the thing: law does not establish morality. Morality is the basis of law. And morality is derived from that fact that men and women are creatures made in the image and likeness of God. It is not derived from what Caesar happens to approve or disapprove.

Mark does it well, so I won't comment on that further except to disagree with Mark that Huckabee probably didn't mean it that way.  Just take him at his word that he believes that law establishes morality.  In the political world of 2008, those in Washington DC, do legislate morality.  And it is what Huckabee is about.  Limited government?  States rights?  Must have imagined that to be a conservative concept. 

Yeah. Because once you give it in one state, then what keeps that couple from having it in New Hampshire and then moving to Arkansas and saying, "Hey, you have to accept what the other state did." That's why it is better cleared up by a marriage amendment that just says marriage is what it always has been.

Yes, Huckabee is railing against homosexual union.  But he is doing so in such a way that I can sympathize with the radical left when they fret about a theocracy.   Huckabee thinks that the federal government is in charge of handing out freedom.  And in charge of defining morality.   Did he forget we are the United States of America?

The states in the US of A are not just some antiquated boundaries better suited for tasteless jokes or sports rivalries.  The limited role of the federal government was crucial to the states agreeing to form a union.  He would be wise to read up on the War between the States considering how often he references it.

I may agree with Huckabee's morality, but I surely don't agree with his politics.

And it seems a few others disagree with his sincerity and his growing anti-Catholic problem.


James H said...

I am not really seeing a anti Catholic problem for Huckabee. I am a supporters of his and I am have tried to monitor it.

Catholic Insight

I thought also at Catholuc Insight they addressed that quite well

As I have mentioned before on my BLog we have a tradition of Catholic politicans often being invited to Churches that are not exactly loving Catholic Theology. Bobby Jindal Gov ELect is a prime example

FIghting Irish THomas also addressed some concerns over the remarks you quoted

What Huckabee was doing, and I think several comments on the Shea article point this out, was trying to show how Law is a reflection of Morality. I saw nothing in his remarks that make me believe that he will be a enemy to Federalism

Jeff Miller said...

I already voted for Jimmy Carter once, I will not do it again. Huckabee's foreign policy seems to me to be just as naive as old Jimmy's.

Mike Huckabee is certainly an appealing figure, but no conservative. which is as non-partisan site as possible says that as Governor he raised taxes 21 times and the 505 million far outweighed the 90 taxes he cut. Also despite what he says violent crime in Arkansas actually increased from the time he became governor to the time he left according to

I also find his explanations time and time again to be less than truthful. His explanation of the asking about Satan's brother just does not match with the reporter. His answers about pardons were also less than truthful and then saying he won't run attack ads and then showing them to reporters shows a real problem along with he receiving $35,000 dollars in speaking feels from a embryonic stem-cell company. Time and time again as a Christian leader his answers have bothered me and I was really hoping he could be someone I could support. I also wonder why his campaign won't release his sermons from his time as Pastor. I do wonder if there is any anti-Catholic stuff in them.

KaleJ said...

I too was very hopeful in the beginning. But listening to his answers more and more I have since ceased hoping in him.

This latest comment might be able to be explained away, but after the same theme repeatedly, if it looks like a duck and talks like a duck...

I'll look at the links, but if you read my other recent posts on huckabee, you can see a disturbing theme here. He isn't a federalist, that is for sure.

Anonymous said...

Here's the link that James H mentioned in the above post from Fighting Irish Thomas: Missing the 'Mark'—Oh, Shea can't you see (that Huckabee has heart)

KaleJ said...

after reading that link, I can honestly say I was not convinced. Thomas spends more time attacking Shea than actually making a point. Usually, that is a good indication the person has little to say.

His defense seems more along the line of blind loyalty because of the perception that Huckabee is our only pro-life candidate (of course that is a mis-perception given the Ron Paul factor). Huckabee may be a fine preacher, but as I note in my post, I don't like his politics.

USpace said...

Huckabee seems to want fundamentalism. It could never happen, even if Huckabilly really wanted to do it. I don't think he does, he just wants the votes from those who do. He's not stupid enough to want it or to try to do it as POTUS, he's just stupid enough to say it.

Huckleberry is too conservative on religion and too liberal on criminals and the economy and immigration.

Huckabye? Huckabee wants to have adulterers, homosexuals and rape victims stoned to death. He also wants to make alcohol and music videos illegal, and make women 2nd class citizens and to take all girls out of school.

Oops, my bad, that's another 'religion'.

Hey, anybody but the PIAPS!

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